C&R · III · 041
Frommer Stop, Benke-Thiemann stock
Section III: removed from the NFA, curio or relic under the GCA
Official wording
ATF P 5300.11 · APRIL 2025 EDITION · SECTION III · VERBATIM · PDF P. 24 ↗
Frommer, Model 1912, semiautomatic pistol w/Benke-Thiemann folding shoulder stock.
What this entry requires
- ATF REQUIRESConfigured as the ATF wording states: “w/Benke-Thiemann folding shoulder stock”
- INFOATF states no date; production was about 1912–1929.
Editorial facts · Our research
- Country
HungaryBasis: no citation - Manufacturer
- Fegyver- és Gépgyár (FÉG), BudapestBasis: outside reference ²
- Type
- PistolBasis: the ATF wording
- Action
- Semi-autoBasis: the ATF wording
- Caliber
- 7.65mm Frommer, .380 ACPBasis: outside reference ³
- Made
- c. 1912–1929production; ATF states no dateBasis: outside reference ⁴
- Service
- Military
Source
- Official wording
- ATF P 5300.11, April 2025 edition · Section III · PDF p. 24 ↗ · ATF original ↗
- Entries
- 1 line
- Verbatim check
- Checked against the PDF text before every release
- Editorial facts
- Confidence: Medium · Last revised 17 October 2026 (Data-trust review) · How we rate confidence
- References
- 1. Wikipedia, “Frommer Stop” ↗, name: The Stop was adopted as the Pisztoly 12.M (Model 1912)
- 2. Wikipedia, “Frommer Stop” ↗, maker: Manufactured by Fegyver- és Gépgyár (FÉG), Budapest
- 3. Wikipedia, “Frommer Stop” ↗, calibers: Chambered 7.65mm Frommer (fires .32 ACP); 9mm Frommer (.380 ACP) export variant 1912–1929
- 4. Wikipedia, “Frommer Stop” ↗, years: Manufactured in various forms from 1912 to 1929
- 5. Wikipedia, “Frommer Stop” ↗, service: Adopted by the Austro-Hungarian Army; used in WWI and WWII
- 6. Wikipedia, “Luger pistol” ↗, general: Benke-Thiemann folding stock was made by Armeria Belga of Santiago (Chile)
- Fact tags
- ATF the ATF wording states it.
- REF ¹ an outside reference supports it; the number points to the list of references.
- ESTIMATE an approximate or indirect reading, for example the production range of the base model.
- NO CITATION we haven’t attached a reference for this fact; it’s our editorial reading, not ATF’s.
- Source checked
- 20 October 2026: ATF’s page still lists the April 2025 edition
- Corrections
- 3 changes · see below
Correction history
- Data-trust reviewEditorial confidence: Low → Medium. Re-rated after supporting references were added or re-checked.
- Data-trust reviewSearch aliases updated. Added 12.m and .32 acp aliases after the caliber correction
- Data-trust reviewCalibers: .32 ACP, .380 ACP → 7.65mm Frommer, .380 ACP. The Stop's own chambering is the 7.65mm Frommer Long (it also fires .32 ACP)
Historical context

Image: Wikimedia Commons, “Frommerstop.jpg” by UnneededAplomb at en.wikipedia, CC BY-SA 2.5. Retrieved October 2026.
Summary: Wikipedia, “Frommer Stop”. Text CC BY-SA 4.0.
FROM WIKIPEDIA
The Frommer Stop is a Hungarian semi-automatic pistol designed by Rudolf Frommer and manufactured by Fegyver- és Gépgyár (FÉG) in Budapest. It was developed in the early 20th century and became one of the notable Hungarian pistol designs of the period. The pistol was adopted for military service in Austria-Hungary during World War I and was subsequently used in Hungary during the interwar period and World War II.